OK this is my first atrempt at a list for Impetvs what do people think?

Polish list for Late 16th Century and the Early 17th

Nr Units M VBU I D VD Pts Notes
2-8 CP (Hussars) 8 8 5 B 45 Impetuous
1-4 CM (Pancerni (Polish Cossacks)) 10 5 2 B 26 Bow C
1-4 CL (Real Cossacks) 12 5 2 B 28 Bow C
0-2 CM (Mounted. Arquebusiers) 8 4 1 C 18 Harquebus B
0-2 CL (Dragoons) 12 4 2 C 23 Harquebus B
May dismount as: S 6 3 1 C Harquebus B
0-1 CL (Tartars) 12 4 1 C 18 Bow C
0-2 CP (Rajtar) 8 5 1 B 20
0-4 FP (Harquebus) 5 4 2 B 22 Harquebus B
0-2 FP (German Pike) 5 4 2 B 18 Pike
0-2 FP (German Harquebus) 5 3 1 B 19 Harquebus B
0-2 ART (Heavy Artillery) 2 1 0 B 20 Art A


Thanks

JP

For Bow C I guess you mean Composite Bow C. The "C" class is reserved for troops with mainly melee capabilities, but also with a limited shooting capability. For example some Cataphracts with some bows. As these troops have also a good VBU, it is necessary to give them a less effective shooting class.
I agree with Pacerni and Real Cossack for class C (above all the latter, very strong for CL) but for Tartars CL it is better Composite Bow B.

Ok Updated list:

Nr Units M VBU I D VD Pts Notes
2-8 CP (Hussars)* 8 8 5 B 45 Impetus
1-4 CM (Pancerni (Polish Cossacks)) 10 5 2 B 26 Composite Bow C
1-4 CL (Real Cossacks) 12 5 2 C 23 Composite Bow C
0-2 CM (Mounted. Arquebusiers) 8 4 1 C 18 Harquebusier B
0-2 CL (Dragoons) 12 4 2 C 23 Harquebusier B
May dismount as: S 6 3 1 C 14 Harquebusier B
0-1 CL (Tartars) 12 4 1 C 22 Composite Bow B
0-2 CP (Rajtar) 8 5 1 B 20 -
0-4 FP (Harquebus) 5 4 2 B 22 Harquebusier B
0-2 FP (German Pike) 5 4 2 B 18 Pike
0-2 FP (German Harquebus) 2 3 1 B 19 Harquebusier B
0-2 ART (Heavy Artillery) 2 1 0 B 20 Artillery A

Fogot to add Command Ave or good as choices?

I will give this a few games and see how it plays.

I'm glad to see someone creating a list for Poles. I have Polish and Cossack armies for the Deluge period and am planning on rebasing them for Impetus. Would the FP Harquebus represent the Haiduks? I've been trying to figure out how to represent pike and shot units, like the German units. I guess having the shot wings as separate units works ok, but I'm also thinking of using Impetus for the English Civil War, where it gets a little unwieldy.

Are you planning on creating a Cossack list, as well?

I will look at sorting out a Cossack list, Yes the FP Harquebus are Haiduks.

I too would like to see how they are going to do the pike shot interaction.

For the pike and shot interaction in Impetus see par. 5.13.
But for 17th cent., a unique unit, like in Basic Baroque, is better.

For me, it's more of an issue with the "look of the thing". My armies are all 25mm and a pike and shot unit just doesn't look "right" on a 120mm base. What if the pike and shot units were wider, say 180mm and everything else remained 120mm?

well, for Basic Baroque (or Baroque) the frontage of 28mm is 18cm mainly to give the good visual and to allow gamers to use multiple of 6cm bases (assuming that a pike unit is paced in the middle of 2 shot units).

Uniforming all Units to 18cm solve (gaming) problems but keeping a different frontage for other troops could have sense, above all to allow some Impetus troops to be used also for Baroque. Actually more plystesting would be required.

Fantastic!!!!
I'm looking for a set of rules for Eastern Renaissance in 28mm.
I think that Baroque could be useful for this period.
What do you suggest for Muscovites, Polish, Cossak ecc. like Basic Baroque list?

Thanks for help!